Ok, maybe the front of the sign could be phrased differently to clearly convey it's talking about basic legal rights, not actual implementation of full rights, but the point is valid. I agree about the back.
How is the point valid? What's to be gained by this approach? How could this sign be rephrased to make it not inane? The only way I can think of is to change it so that it in no way compares the struggle of queers to the struggles of women and blackfolks.
But also note, the increased turnout of POC (and of recent immigrants and of people with less $), in this election in particular, may well have something to do with Prop. 8 having won.
Bullshit. Prove it. And even if it did (which no reputable source is claiming), what does that have to do with insipid signs like this one? "Oh, the POC ruined this vote for us, so we get to use them on our signs!"
That's absurd.
It ain't pretty, but it's true--of course, what you make of that may depend on how you slice the numbers (POC voted for Prop 8 more than did white folks, but I suspect that recent immigrants and their children account for a big chunk of this, but those numbers I haven't seen; I haven't even seen a breakdown distinguishing between Hispanic and black folks).
The numbers you've seen about blackfolk are practically made up, anyway, based on a single exit poll, with no way to confirm or deny it. And your baseless suspicion of recent Hispanic immigrants isn't too pretty, either.
That, and for all the $ having been poured in on both sides, the failure of the gay rights side to reach out to communities of color (to the best of my knowledge; there may have been some that I didn't know about).
Now, THIS is certainly true.
Partly due to valiant efforts of an activist who is both queer and of color... I can't remember her name... she's a former Reedie, it so happens, who graduated a few decades ahead of us... anyways.
Not sure who you mean - I don't know any Reedies IRL. But she sounds cool.
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Date: 2008-12-07 04:06 pm (UTC)How is the point valid? What's to be gained by this approach? How could this sign be rephrased to make it not inane? The only way I can think of is to change it so that it in no way compares the struggle of queers to the struggles of women and blackfolks.
But also note, the increased turnout of POC (and of recent immigrants and of people with less $), in this election in particular, may well have something to do with Prop. 8 having won.
Bullshit. Prove it. And even if it did (which no reputable source is claiming), what does that have to do with insipid signs like this one? "Oh, the POC ruined this vote for us, so we get to use them on our signs!"
That's absurd.
It ain't pretty, but it's true--of course, what you make of that may depend on how you slice the numbers (POC voted for Prop 8 more than did white folks, but I suspect that recent immigrants and their children account for a big chunk of this, but those numbers I haven't seen; I haven't even seen a breakdown distinguishing between Hispanic and black folks).
The numbers you've seen about blackfolk are practically made up, anyway, based on a single exit poll, with no way to confirm or deny it. And your baseless suspicion of recent Hispanic immigrants isn't too pretty, either.
That, and for all the $ having been poured in on both sides, the failure of the gay rights side to reach out to communities of color (to the best of my knowledge; there may have been some that I didn't know about).
Now, THIS is certainly true.
Partly due to valiant efforts of an activist who is both queer and of color... I can't remember her name... she's a former Reedie, it so happens, who graduated a few decades ahead of us... anyways.
Not sure who you mean - I don't know any Reedies IRL. But she sounds cool.